I will not be getting a booster. I got Covid two months after being fully vaccinated. I received the Pfizer vaccine. The person I got Covid from (a coworker) was also vaccinated, moderna, and he was 4.5 months past receiving his vaccine. He ended up hospitalized because of it. My main focal point has been the studies on natural immunity after having Covid and the results of those studies thus far. The only thing I’ll add is that having Covid was downright awful. It was a full three weeks of being incredibly ill, and for the most part, I would be considered a healthy 27 year old otherwise. 10/10 would not recommend lol
We’re only up to about 40% fully vaccinated here in rural Missouri, so I do want a booster. We were the poster child for Delta variety and I doubt it will stop there. It feels riskier than if most ppl were also vaccinated
However, right now, boosters in my county are only given to the immune compromised. Hypothetically, I could get onr now, as my local pharmacy doesn’t check whether you’re actually eligible. I haven’t done so. But when boosters are open to the 65+ crowd, eh, I’ll see. I’m 61, but last spring you could get on a waiting list to use vaccines that were about to expire.
Yes - already got one! (I’m immune compromised). There seems to be enough evidence that vaccination can help prevent serious illness and that’s more critical than we know yet. Long term complications of a serious viral infection that has neurological impact - it’s a big unknown and not a risk people should take. I was very ill from mononucleosis at age 14 (Epstein Barr virus) and there’s a strong correlation with my Multiple Sclerosis later in life. Not everyone that has mono develops MS, but everyone that has MS has had mono or other serious illness from Epstein Barr. We know that degree of illness matters, it’s worth mitigating if you can.
I'm glad to hear you were able to get your booster!
I would like to see the neurological component of COVID infection investigated more thoroughly - the symptoms of long COVID seem to imply that there is some sort of neurological damage done
I've got some serious questions about the methodology being used in that post. Per the first chart the number of booster shots (which he doesn't mention were only available to anyone 60 or older) has been steadily climbing since the launch of the program. It doesn't show a big Yom Kippur surge like the poster is claiming. Plus, boosters were made available to those 40 and over just this past Thursday (the last day of Yom Kippur ironically).
As far as the "worry window", one can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days, and Israel has a really high infection rate - Israel has a current average of 544 new infections per 100k people while the US has a 294 per 100k rate. Taking that into consideration, I don't doubt that there will be a subset of the high risk population who received a booster shot but were also asymptomatic at the time of the shot. His point about this taking the same path at the first dose holds, but for the reason I mentioned.
Overall, it reads like someone who wants a certain hypothesis to be true so they look at the data with that in mind, disregarding any other data or explanation
I think he states the limitations of the data and his assumptions. He has a hypothesis and is watching the data to see if it supports it. He has been good about correcting himself when the data shows his idea wasn’t correct.
So, I too am watching what happens. If the CFR increases for the booster crowd in other countries that would be very worrisome.
I'll get a booster as soon as I can just as I'll get my annual flu shot soon. Like you, I hate being sick. For now, I work from home, but I enjoy socializing. Two vaccinated friends have had breakthrough infections, one (from someone at his grandkids' day care) serious enough it almost required hospitalization. I hate having to go through another winter of not-quite-normal, but I'd rather do so healthy, too.
I'm interested to see what the initial uptake will be for booster shots - I'm betting the we'll see the same sharp spike then plateau we saw with the initial rollout
I will not be getting a booster. I got Covid two months after being fully vaccinated. I received the Pfizer vaccine. The person I got Covid from (a coworker) was also vaccinated, moderna, and he was 4.5 months past receiving his vaccine. He ended up hospitalized because of it. My main focal point has been the studies on natural immunity after having Covid and the results of those studies thus far. The only thing I’ll add is that having Covid was downright awful. It was a full three weeks of being incredibly ill, and for the most part, I would be considered a healthy 27 year old otherwise. 10/10 would not recommend lol
We’re only up to about 40% fully vaccinated here in rural Missouri, so I do want a booster. We were the poster child for Delta variety and I doubt it will stop there. It feels riskier than if most ppl were also vaccinated
However, right now, boosters in my county are only given to the immune compromised. Hypothetically, I could get onr now, as my local pharmacy doesn’t check whether you’re actually eligible. I haven’t done so. But when boosters are open to the 65+ crowd, eh, I’ll see. I’m 61, but last spring you could get on a waiting list to use vaccines that were about to expire.
Yes - already got one! (I’m immune compromised). There seems to be enough evidence that vaccination can help prevent serious illness and that’s more critical than we know yet. Long term complications of a serious viral infection that has neurological impact - it’s a big unknown and not a risk people should take. I was very ill from mononucleosis at age 14 (Epstein Barr virus) and there’s a strong correlation with my Multiple Sclerosis later in life. Not everyone that has mono develops MS, but everyone that has MS has had mono or other serious illness from Epstein Barr. We know that degree of illness matters, it’s worth mitigating if you can.
I'm glad to hear you were able to get your booster!
I would like to see the neurological component of COVID infection investigated more thoroughly - the symptoms of long COVID seem to imply that there is some sort of neurological damage done
The data from Israel is not encouraging
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-covid-boosters-accentuating-covid
I've got some serious questions about the methodology being used in that post. Per the first chart the number of booster shots (which he doesn't mention were only available to anyone 60 or older) has been steadily climbing since the launch of the program. It doesn't show a big Yom Kippur surge like the poster is claiming. Plus, boosters were made available to those 40 and over just this past Thursday (the last day of Yom Kippur ironically).
As far as the "worry window", one can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days, and Israel has a really high infection rate - Israel has a current average of 544 new infections per 100k people while the US has a 294 per 100k rate. Taking that into consideration, I don't doubt that there will be a subset of the high risk population who received a booster shot but were also asymptomatic at the time of the shot. His point about this taking the same path at the first dose holds, but for the reason I mentioned.
Overall, it reads like someone who wants a certain hypothesis to be true so they look at the data with that in mind, disregarding any other data or explanation
I think he states the limitations of the data and his assumptions. He has a hypothesis and is watching the data to see if it supports it. He has been good about correcting himself when the data shows his idea wasn’t correct.
So, I too am watching what happens. If the CFR increases for the booster crowd in other countries that would be very worrisome.
I'll get a booster as soon as I can just as I'll get my annual flu shot soon. Like you, I hate being sick. For now, I work from home, but I enjoy socializing. Two vaccinated friends have had breakthrough infections, one (from someone at his grandkids' day care) serious enough it almost required hospitalization. I hate having to go through another winter of not-quite-normal, but I'd rather do so healthy, too.
I'm interested to see what the initial uptake will be for booster shots - I'm betting the we'll see the same sharp spike then plateau we saw with the initial rollout
Hopefully we don’t see an increase of CFR that Israel is showing